User talk:Greg - Revision history

Erik hammerstrom at 16:16, 25 January 2011

Erik hammerstrom — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:16:08 GMT

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	* NOT "''Hǎicháo yīn'' 海潮音" (Sound of the Sea-Tide)		* NOT "''Hǎicháo yīn'' 海潮音" (Sound of the Sea-Tide)
	Do you see what I mean?		Do you see what I mean?
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		+	I see what you mean about using half bold, half not bold for main entries, but it seems an unnecessarily complex formatting request. Also, aren't we placing the item in bold font because it is the main entry?
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		+	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 00:16, 26 January 2011 (CST)

Erik hammerstrom: /* Standardize First/Subsequent References */ new section

Erik hammerstrom — Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:10:29 GMT

Standardize First/Subsequent References: new section

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	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:47, 5 November 2010 (CST)		--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:47, 5 November 2010 (CST)
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		+	== Standardize First/Subsequent References ==
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		+	I agree with what you propose (using pinyin only for subsequent citations of a term, name, etc. in Chinese).
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		+	The one thing I do not agree on is why if the term is part of the article title we do not use bold through the hole line. You suggest leaving the title not bold. It seems that placing the article title in bold is an issue of formatting, akin to placing something in quotation marks. One does not place only part of a term in quotation marks, but the entire string. For example:
		+	* "''Hǎicháo yīn'' 海潮音 (Sound of the Sea-Tide)"
		+	* NOT "''Hǎicháo yīn'' 海潮音" (Sound of the Sea-Tide)
		+	Do you see what I mean?

Erik hammerstrom at 17:47, 4 November 2010

Erik hammerstrom — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:47:21 GMT

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	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:37, 20 July 2010 (CST)		--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:37, 20 July 2010 (CST)
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		+	Greg, I am mostly fine with having people get approval to join. I say "mostly" for three reasons: First, we may not want to put any barrier up to having people join. Including us, I think we have about 2.5 active registered users currently and we shouldn't do anything that might discourage participation. Second, the system you propose would require us to list our e-mail addresses here, which would probably increase the amount of spam that we each receive (unless we put our addresses up as JPEG files, or use some other such measure). Lastly, the amount of spam accounts we have received has not seemed onerously large to me. This of course may change.
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		+	These are my thoughts for now. If you really want to change how registration works, I will go along with it, but I tend to think it is unnecessary right now.
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		+	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:47, 5 November 2010 (CST)

Erik hammerstrom at 17:37, 19 July 2010

Erik hammerstrom — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:37:18 GMT

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	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 00:02, 14 July 2010 (CST)		--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 00:02, 14 July 2010 (CST)
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		+	I still think a clickable map is a good idea, but the one we have right now is a little too small to allow differentiation of places that are close together. If the map was larger I think we should still use it.
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		+	I think I understand what you are saying about an intro line with the subject in bold. Had we agreed to do this for all types of articles (such as institution)? I can't recall. I know we wanted to do it with geo, bio, and temple articles. [[Blank_Institution]] and [[Blank_Periodical]] have not been edited to reflect this, nor has the latter been edited to include an infobox. I will do that now.
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		+	On a somewhat related note, I think it would be better if we leave disambiguation information for all articles at the top of the page (as in [[Foxue yuekan 佛學月刊]]), and not in any infoboxes (as you have done for [[Fojiao yuekan 佛教月刊]]). This is information that the reader should see first thing before proceeding into the article. I think placing it at the top would expedite this.
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		+	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:37, 20 July 2010 (CST)

Erik hammerstrom at 16:02, 13 July 2010

Erik hammerstrom — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:02:01 GMT

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	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 20:10, 17 June 2010 (CST)		--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 20:10, 17 June 2010 (CST)
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		+	I think double-checking the articles we have before the one year anniversary is a good idea. I will take a look at all the pages for which I am listed as editor. I intend to finish my work on the grant by next Friday (before the one year anniversary). I have currently done 33.5 hours of 54 (around 62%). It looks like most of the most important geographic and temple articles have now been done and I am shifting back to biographies. Today I am going to start doing pages on a few Japanese missionaries and scholars active in China (Mizuno, Tokiwa, Ogurisu, etc.). I am hoping to finally do pages for Liang Qichao and Yinshun this week, too.
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		+	If you see anything you think we still really need, let me know and I will get to it.
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		+	It looks like you are doing well on the periodical stuff. That's a good sign for your own work. Good luck.
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		+	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 00:02, 14 July 2010 (CST)

Erik hammerstrom at 12:10, 17 June 2010

Erik hammerstrom — Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:10:35 GMT

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	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 04:57, 3 June 2010 (CST)		--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 04:57, 3 June 2010 (CST)
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		+	After talking to you, I created the page [[Welch Project]]. Right now it just contains the list of chapters and headings as found in the book.
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		+	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 20:10, 17 June 2010 (CST)

Erik hammerstrom at 20:57, 2 June 2010

Erik hammerstrom — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:57:17 GMT

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	2) For some pages (such as [[妙善]]), there are multiple entries, which I have separated into sub-headings. What do you think? This allows the reader to select which person they want to look at, but it does not follow the format we have established for biography pages.		2) For some pages (such as [[妙善]]), there are multiple entries, which I have separated into sub-headings. What do you think? This allows the reader to select which person they want to look at, but it does not follow the format we have established for biography pages.
	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 23:11, 31 March 2010 (CST)		--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 23:11, 31 March 2010 (CST)
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		+	I have created the template Temple_infobox, and have used it for four pages (See "Recent changes"). If you could take a look at it when you get a chance, I would appreciate your feedback.
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		+	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 04:57, 3 June 2010 (CST)

Greg: clean-up

Greg — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 21:30:04 GMT

clean-up

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	== Message Board ==		== Message Board ==

-	~~It looks like you've been getting a lot of work done tonight. Let me know when you're done with the periodical pages.~~

-	~~Also, I already had a section for copyright law in the PRC on my page. What we still need is the ROC (Taiwan).~~
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-	Finally, I have recently been reminded that "top-posting" is discouraged on most lists (H-Buddhism, etc.). Perhaps we should start bottom-posting again here on our discussion pages just to keep us in the good habit. What do you think?
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 10:22, 17 June 2009 (CST)~~
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-	The developer of the Firefox plugin responded to my thread. He can't duplicate the problem with initial vowels, but he did remind me that when writing in pinyin on Chinese keyboards one uses "V" instead of "Ü". It seems to work fine that way. He will also be looking at ways to deal with the issue of deleted digits. Hopefully new versions of the tool will see these improvements.
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 19:46, 16 June 2009 (CST)~~
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-	Two notes: 1) I am going through the institution articles (about half done) and I have removed the <nowiki>* Associated Person(s):</nowiki> line from the blank institution page. It simply gets too complicated to figure out which people are "associated" and how many of them to include.
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-	2) In your examination of the periodicals' title pages, you7 may want to keep an eye for to see if they have English titles. I have included them in cases where I had written them down. It doesn't happen often, but we should follow any English titles they give.
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 23:01, 18 June 2009 (CST)~~
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-	I have now finished going through all of the institution articles. Take your time going through them, and when you are done we can move on to biographical pieces. I will be away from editing for about the next week, so there's no rush.
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:04, 20 June 2009 (CST)~~
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-	Editing sounds good. If there are any major formatting issues you see, take a note of them as I have done my best to unify the format accross all institution articles, thus we would need to do multiple changes if something is out of whack.
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-	~~That's a great idea about the pictures. We have the HCY reprint here, as well, so I can look for some pictures when I get back.~~
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-	As for making redirect pages for alternate names, I think we should only do that for commonly used alternate names. For example, I put one up for "Wang Jitong," as Wang Xiaoxu is equally known by both names. Other than a few instances like that, I think we should let the search engine take care of things. I guess I think it's OK, but that we shouldn't make it a requirement at this stage.
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 23:12, 20 June 2009 (CST)~~
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-	The template idea is a good one. I am guessing that this means that if we decide to change some aspect of the reference down the line, all one would need to do would be change the template screen and the update would happen automatically to all entries. That indeed is very powerful.
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-	I'd like to see templates for Shì Dōngchū's ''History'' and Yú Língbō's 現代佛教人物辭典. I use those two quite a bit, and it is my hope to add references to both, where applicable, to ALL biographical entries. If you could show me how to make a template (or point me in the direction of directions), I could do it myself. Though of course if you have a handle on, it would be that much more expedient.
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 10:10, 24 June 2009 (CST)~~
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-	The templates look great, I can't wait to start using them when I get back to working on this site. Currently I have internet only sporadically, and not on my computer, so I don't see myself doing any major editing any time soon. All of this is to say, don't worry about taking a breather for a while.
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-	There is one thing I noticed regarding the template ZJFRZ: I am pretty sure that the one you list is volume one of a five-part series. (It may even be six parts.) With the first one, we shouldn't have to list volume 1 under the template title, but it should be in there in the bibliographic data. Subsequent templates could look like this: ZJFRZ2, ZJFRZ3, etc. As the XFRC surpasses this series, this may not turn out to be a big deal.
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 22:11, 25 June 2009 (CST)~~
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-	~~My mistake. Yu Lingbo does have at least 5 volumes of the 中國近代佛門人物志, and they are numbered as such.~~
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 11:16, 30 June 2009 (CST)~~
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-	I have now finished looking over all articles in the categories of biography, institution, periodicals, and ideology. I have also started a "Draft Release Announcement" on my page. Would you like me to look over the chronology pages you've done?
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-	The maps you put up look good. I think it's a great idea. Although it's a bit anachronistic to have the modern streets listed, it would still help to orient people looking for those sites today. I can start making similar pages for other places, such as 鎮江, though I don't know if we need to do this before we announce the site.
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-	~~I had two thoughts about the site related to its announcement: First, should we "protect" some of the policy pages (like the main page, etc.)?~~
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-	Second, I still think we should encourage people to post things related to Chinese Buddhism from 1950 to the present. As there is no space requirement to this site, it can't hurt. I have said in the draft release statement that we are currently "focusing" on the period from 1850 to 1950, but that people can post things for later. I know you wanted to limit it to 1950, but I still feel that if we are using the word "modern" in the title, we should welcome contributions for more recent periods. Having this as a stated policy from the get-go also gives us greater coverage in for the future if we choose to change our minds.
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 23:26, 10 July 2009 (CST)~~
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-	Greg, the templates look good. I tried to edit mine so that my name is a link, but I discovered the problem I think you talking about and had to revert the page. I see no problem with having our names unlinked for now.
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-	When I get back to the office later in the weekend or on Monday, I will go through and start assigning pages. I will also construct templates for the other categories of articles if you haven't already done so by then.
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-	~~I don't know if the article editor should go at the top of he page, but if they do become part of a general table of information as you mention, then I guess it does make sense.~~
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-	~~One final note. I just wanted to remind you that we agreed not to "top post" on the message pages. It's been so long since we used them I am guessing you forgot.~~
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 23:19, 20 November 2009 (CST)~~
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-	The Yáng Wénhuì box looks pretty good. I like the colors and the size of it. Well done. Suggestions: "Known Associates" makes him sound like a criminal. How about just "associates." This leads me to the question of the content of the box. If we add all alternate names and all associates to each box, in some cases the boxes will be larger than the article. I think those two pieces of information should be in the main article, though I could be convinced otherwise on the names (which I know is how they do it on Wikipedia).
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-	~~Should I go ahead and start assigning editorship of the various pages, or should I wait until you've got the boxes figured out?~~
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 18:55, 23 November 2009 (CST)~~
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-	~~Yes to "Notable Associates" and to leaving four of them in the info box, along with one other common name.~~
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-	~~Once the guidelines are set, I will start adding boxes to those pages with no images. That is, until the thumbnail issue is worked out.~~
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-	Also, should there be info boxes for he other categories? At this point, I am leaning toward "no," given that we already have templates, and beyond that there is little of common information about the different entries in each category.
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 22:38, 23 November 2009 (CST)~~
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-	I am going to start adding article editor listings for for the pages. To this end, I am creating templates for the various sections. I think the article editor should be listed at the bottom, above "References," rather than at the top. What is your feeling on this?
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 22:36, 4 January 2010 (CST)~~
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-	~~Another pass on editing sounds like a fine idea. I will start going through the pages for which I am responsible..~~
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:01, 24 January 2010 (CST)~~
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-	My vote is for a single page with the different era names. Overall, my view is that less is more with regard to chronology. Fundamentally, I see this site as providing access in English to information and materials that are unavailable elsewhere. As there is much written on chronology at other sites, I think what is important for us is just to have some basic organizing structures and data within which we can place all of the "primary" material (biographical, institutional, geographic, etc.) that we are making available.
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:17, 3 February 2010 (CST)~~
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-	~~Re: Editor Templates~~
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-	~~Greg, that sounds good. As far as I understand the problem, this sounds like a good fix.~~
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-	~~--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 08:38, 15 February 2010 (CST)~~
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	I have several questions about the choice of page titles.		I have several questions about the choice of page titles.

Erik hammerstrom at 15:11, 31 March 2010

Erik hammerstrom — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:11:34 GMT

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		+	I have several questions about the choice of page titles.
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		+	1) What are your thoughts on romanizations for non-Chinese persons in their file names? E.g. Cressy, Reichelt, Richard. Should we use their English names followed by the 漢字 as the page titles? Also, what about institutions?
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		+	2) For some pages (such as [[妙善]]), there are multiple entries, which I have separated into sub-headings. What do you think? This allows the reader to select which person they want to look at, but it does not follow the format we have established for biography pages.
		+	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 23:11, 31 March 2010 (CST)

Erik hammerstrom at 00:38, 15 February 2010

Erik hammerstrom — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 00:38:46 GMT

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	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:17, 3 February 2010 (CST)		--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 01:17, 3 February 2010 (CST)
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		+	Re: Editor Templates
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		+	Greg, that sounds good. As far as I understand the problem, this sounds like a good fix.
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		+	--[[User:Erik hammerstrom\|Erik hammerstrom]] 08:38, 15 February 2010 (CST)